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 Post subject: Re: Gretchen C Fired by Fox, filed sexual harassment suit
PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:22 am 
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hanley wrote:
is it really news that women on the payroll are NOT slamming their boss publicly?
what else would we expect?


The easiest thing for any of these women to do is remain silent
Nobody forced them to defend Ailes


how do you know nobody forced them? easiest thing to do is to defend ailes
he still has all the power there


According to the article, they wanted to speak out
I take them at their word
Martha also spoke for the Yahoo article
One thing you must understand is Gretchen put all of Fox's women anchors in a terrible position
If they say nothing, they are subject to being accused of agreeing to Ailes' alleged demands


you said at first that remaining silent was the easiest thing to do though lol
plus, i don't take them at their word. if Ailes told them to say something they won't say "hey, roger wanted me to defend him"
notice who didn't speak out - megyn kelly. she is the most famous of all the hosts i'm sure roger wants her to speak up but it would go against everything she has been doing the last year or so trying to be a role model for women.
http://jezebel.com/a-bunch-of-fox-news- ... 1783440545


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you said at first that remaining silent was the easiest thing to do though lol
plus, i don't take them at their word. if Ailes told them to say something they won't say "hey, roger wanted me to defend him"
notice who didn't speak out - megyn kelly. she is the most famous of all the hosts i'm sure roger wants her to speak up but it would go against everything she has been doing the last year or so trying to be a role model for women.
http://jezebel.com/a-bunch-of-fox-news- ... 1783440545


So far 10 have spoken up for Ailes
Greta, Maria, Sandra, Ainsley, Harris, Kimberly, Martha, Mercedes, the Judge and Kiran
Other besides Megyn haven't
Right now, the others who have backed Gretchen came not from Fox and were decades ago
Not saying they're lying, but it isn't like the Cosby thing in which the accusers overwhelmingly outnumbered the defenders
I still believe the easy thing to do is stay silent
I give the ladies who spoke out plenty of credit

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what did they have to lose by "speaking out"?

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what did they have to lose by "speaking out"?


Some of them have been s l u t shamed by staying silent
By those wondering who got ahead by sleeping with Ailes

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sparty wrote:
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what did they have to lose by "speaking out"?


Some of them have been s l u t shamed by staying silent
By those wondering who got ahead by sleeping with Ailes


Imo, you're just as likely to be s lut shamed by defending him
Don't see a difference


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Now Elisabeth defended Ailes and Doocy
http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/elisabe ... 201812883/


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As has been pointed out, a lot of credible women are standing up for Ailes. Says a lot. IMO Kelly not saying anything is a good thing. Don't really believe she is as credible as she thinks she is. Full of herself is the reason.

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Ainsley talks to People and Elisabeth releases a statement:

http://www.people.com/article/fox-news- ... oger-ailes

And Gretchen talks to The New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/busin ... rview.html

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As has been pointed out, a lot of credible women are standing up for Ailes. Says a lot. IMO Kelly not saying anything is a good thing. Don't really believe she is as credible as she thinks she is. Full of herself is the reason.


I couldn't agree more. I don't see any super star status with her special shows that she does they are really boring. Her own show is just her shouting over everyone else to get her point across.


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If any of these Megyn Kelly comments had been said about Ainsley, they would have been deleted by now


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KT McFarland, who has known Ailes since the 1970s: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/287 ... r-ailes?dg

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If any of these Megyn Kelly comments had been said about Ainsley, they would have been deleted by now


I think the comments about Megyn which accuse her of sleeping with Ailes SHOULD be deleted

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here's all we've seen so far:
some women say he did this.
some women say he didn't.
period.
until this gets to trial, if it ever does, it really comes down to who you choose to believe.

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hanley wrote:
here's all we've seen so far:
some women say he did this.
some women say he didn't.
period.

And this isn't an election. More "votes" from one group or the other doesn't determine innocence or guilt. One more thing, not one person is calling another a liar. They're either remaining cordial or simply not talking to each other, a non-partisan lesson to be learned in our current political climate.

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until this gets to trial, if it ever does, it really comes down to who you choose to believe.

Exactly. My prediction is that the only way Ailes will keep his job is a settlement in which all parties have a gag order and the defendant isn't required to admit guilt, i.e., the standard terms for settlement.


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Not taking sides but look at this board. With each of us members There are certain ladies that we love & some we dont.

Meaning maybe Ailes did harass some & not others.

Does anyone think he would harass van susteren ? :jetserl :jetserl :jetserl

I just know I wouldnt want ot be on that jury. Too much he said she said. Wonder if the truth will ever come out.


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not one person is calling another a liar. They're either remaining cordial or simply not talking to each other, a non-partisan lesson to be learned in our current political climate.


not sure about that.
Guilfoyle seems to be calling Carlson a liar, IMO.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ld-matter/

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not one person is calling another a liar. They're either remaining cordial or simply not talking to each other, a non-partisan lesson to be learned in our current political climate.


not sure about that.
Guilfoyle seems to be calling Carlson a liar, IMO.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ld-matter/


tammy bruce wasn't too kind either
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/my- ... 08d3329713


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hanley wrote:
braniac wrote:
not one person is calling another a liar. They're either remaining cordial or simply not talking to each other, a non-partisan lesson to be learned in our current political climate.


not sure about that.
Guilfoyle seems to be calling Carlson a liar, IMO.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ld-matter/


A very pro Ailes article, not surprising considering the site.


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Add Jedediah Bila to the list of Ailes defenders:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/jedidiah ... h-with-me/

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and here's another woman who's not defending him:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/ar ... ar-her-out

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